If the experienced pair of John Stones and Manu Akanji are combining to gift the opposition goals, what hope does Pep Guardiola have?
Against Arsenal on Sunday, just like a week ago vs Chelsea, Manchester City were masters of their downfall within two minutes and the Blues were chasing the game for the third game in a row.
All down to their own doing. Last week was the nightmare debut for Abdukodir Khusanov which can be put down to opening night nerves from a youngster in a new club, country and league.
Stones and Akanji can't have the same excuse at the Emirates, even with Stefan Ortega in goal who lacks the ball-playing calmness of Ederson.
Read more on manchestereveningnews.co.uk