Di'Shon Bernard, for a moment, looks down at the keyboard of the laptop he is speaking via in Sheffield Wednesday's media suite at their Middlewood Road training ground and starts reminiscing.
He has been asked what it was like, at the age of 19, to make his Manchester United debut in a European fixture more than 3,500 miles away from Old Trafford.
United were facing FC Astana in their penultimate Europa League group game in November 2019 and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, who was the manager at the time, decided to ring the changes and name a youthful-looking side.
Alongside Bernard, who had joined United just over two years earlier from Chelsea, were the likes of Axel Tuanzebe, James Garner, Tahith Chong and Angel Gomes.
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