This is Gavin Newsom, in which he seeks to interview “the biggest leaders and architects in the MAGA movement.”In the episode, Newsom interviewed conservative firebrand Charlie Kirk, executive director of the conservative youth-focused Turning Point USA.Newsom asked Kirk what advice he would give to the Democratic Party.“Get better ideas, governor,” Kirk replied, before railing against transgender inclusion in sports, specifically a transgender high school athlete who won the triple jump event at a California track and field invitational.“You, right now, should come out and be like, ‘You know what?
The young man who’s about to win the state championship in the long jump in female sports — that shouldn’t happen,'” Kirk said. “You, as the governor, should step out and say, ‘No.'”“I think it’s an issue of fairness,” Newsom replied. “I completely agree with you on that….
It’s deeply unfair.”Newsom added that there’s “a humility and a grace” with which people can talk about or debate transgender rights and inclusion within society, but that Democrats are “getting crushed” on the issue.He also praised President Trump’s ad attacking former Vice President Kamala Harris over her past support for allowing incarcerated transgender people to access gender-affirming care as a “great ad.”“It was devastating,” Newsom said of the ad, which painted Harris as out of touch with most Americans’ views on transgender issues and more concerned with what many cisgender people dismiss as niche concerns than issues like immigration, crime, and inflation.
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